I’m here. The question is open. Feel free to actually analyze the scenario you proposed. I’d imagine an educated person like you definitely considered the implications of what they wrote before they bothered to write it, so it should be a simple task for someone as smart as you to just recall your thoughts from yesterday and put it into words here today.

Great. Thanks for the grammar lesson.

Now, do you want to examine your statment, or do you wanna pass on that?

Sure sure,

On the flipside though, if this student had been verbally and physically harassed multiple times while in the locker room while staff ignored his complaints, then he may have felt compelled to film simply to prevent worse harassment from occuring.

Clearly, there is more going on than what information is publicly available.

Not relevant to this thread. Since you’re here though…

…let’s analyze this a bit further… Who’s personal experience should dictate school safety procedures?

In fairness to my past self, a locker room was a place to change my clothes and get out. I was uncomfortable being in there with anyone for any length of time.

I’m trying to take a view from the other boys, who see him as a girl. You can’t reasonably expect people who’ve grown up in a society where they’re is a binary assignment between boy and girl at birth to suddenly understand and accept a trans person, without some kind of education, coaching and adjustment period. From the other boys perspective, this student was a girl, and he just came into the locker room and started filming them. If I went into a women’s locker room and started filming, I probably would get a police escort out of the building with some shiny new bracelets. There are two sides to this story. I’m not saying that the trans boy wasn’t being harassed. I was saying that there is more going on here, because a couple of boys saying “I’m not comfortable with this girl in the locker room” wouldn’t get them suspended for 10 days, the school district said the same thing in the article.

True. My guess is that this is something that has been consistently happening to him. Knowing how schools slow-roll harassment and bullying compliants (unless it has been massively reworked in the last 20 years) he probably saw video evidence as the only way to force the staff to intervene, and was willing to accept the risks of filming the incident.

I agree, but let’s analyze this a bit further… Who’s personal experience should dictate school safety procedures?

No, I think I got it alright.

and if he is willing, the trans student as well.

I imagine some girls would be equally as uncomfortable with this boy in their locker room. From the perspective of those other boys, there was a girl in their locker room. We need to teach understanding that trans people exist, and they need to use bathrooms and locker rooms as well.

I’m with you on having more availability of gender neutral locker rooms, but until schools either integrate all locker rooms (unlikely, seeing how parents have reacted) or build a 3rd locker room (equally unlikely IMO) then we need to teach about how trans people feel, and replace fear and discomfort with understanding and acceptance.

I think a lot of people have not read the article. Locker rooms/changing rooms are already uncomfortable. If there was a girl in my locker room in school, I would have been uncomfortable too. From the article, I wouldn’t go so far as to call it bullying, and suspending the students, but it’s clear that this is a time to have a talk with them, and if he is willing, the trans student as well.

In fairness to the school district, they said they would not have suspended the students for something like this, and they are investigating. So chances are there is more that happened than what is in the news cycle.