a Microsoft programmer asks a programmer of another company: “Tests? What tests? Don’t you have clients for that”

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    Wait. The point of the unbelievable amount of telemetry you can’t even disable was to collect info in situations like this. Right? Why is there telemetry if they have to ask?

    Edit: title of the article is a bit misleading, as I obviously commented before reading the article.

    The “another” company they are in contacting is Phison, the manufacturer of thr affected controllers, so it doesn’t sound as bad as from the title

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      They have received no official reports, and cannot reproduce the issue. I’m betting this is a case of a couple drives failing and then everyone screaming at MS without any verification.

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        Considering the history of MS and how frequent issues like this happen, it is no wonder everyone is screaming at MS. I honestly wonder how well they test their software considering the frequency of critical issues every update.

        https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows11/comments/1mvew6t/microsoft_is_investigating_windows_11_kb5063878/

        https://www.ghacks.net/2019/09/23/former-microsoft-employee-explains-why-bugs-in-windows-updates-increased/

        Back in 2014/2015, Microsoft employed an entire team that was dedicated to testing the operating system, builds, updates, drivers, and other code. The team consisted of multiple groups that would run tests and discuss bugs and issues in daily meetings. Tests were conducted manually by the team and through automated testing, and if tests were passed, would give the okay to integrate the code into Windows.

        The teams ran the tests on “real” hardware in a lab through automated testing. The machines had different hardware components, e.g. processors, hard drives, video and sound cards, and other components to cover a wide range of system configurations, and this meant that bugs that affected only certain hardware components or configurations were detected in the process.

        Microsoft laid off almost the entire Windows Test team as it moved the focus from three different systems – Windows, Windows Mobile and Xbox – to a single system. The company moved most of the testing to virtual machines and this meant according to Berg that tests were no longer conducted on real and diverse hardware configurations for the most part.

        https://www.computerworld.com/article/1626871/microsoft-to-business-dont-worry-about-windows-10-consumers-will-test-it-2.html

        “By putting devices on the Current branch for Business, enterprises will be able to receive feature updates after their quality and application compatibility has been assessed in the consumer market, while continuing to receive security updates on a regular basis,” wrote Jim Alkove, director of program management for Microsoft’s enterprise group, in the Jan. 30 post.

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      This will help them keep the (reported) number of incidents down. Only a fraction of people will report it.

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      Even if the headline weren’t misleading, I wouldn’t be shocked if they have a hard time getting telemetry reports from failed drives from users if the OS is installed on said drive.

      Then again, a modern OS should be able to phone home with a crash report as it crashes depending on what has failed, so I guess I’ve talked myself out of that hypothetical lack of shock.

      So…disregard this. 😅

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    This issue was great. It gave me an excuse to upgrade to a better SSD, which also gave me an excuse to try Linux for the first time in like a decade (other than the Steam Deck). Threw Nobara on the drive that Windows would murder. Haven’t had time to play around with it much, but I’m excited to try it.

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      8 hours ago

      I ordered an SSD and put Bazzite on it. The only problem is that some game anti cheat doesn’t work. Everything else just works including out of the box Nvidia card support