In the caption of the Instagram post, he wrote, “An old white woman got on the train and immediately pointed at me and told me to correct how I was sitting. I refused, so she went to the conductor and complained. The conductor called the police and stopped the train,” he said.

O’Keefe also says in the caption that the friend of the woman who called the police had said to him, “You’re not the minority anymore.”

A separate video about the incident has been uploaded by the user, Nalae, on TikTok, where it has quickly gone viral, having been viewed over 160,000 times as of reporting.

They said I was disturbing the peace by not leaving the train. They pulled me off the train and arrested me without even talking to the Karen who reported the one black person on the train. On the platform, the police detained me and interrogated me. Only black folks stayed nearby and recorded the arrest. When I demanded a lawyer and reminded them they didn’t even take a statement from the woman who complained they eventually released me. This country is growing more psycho by the day. What will you do about it?"

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    The article is purposely misleading.

    From another article: The Bear’ writer booted from MTA train for refusing to take feet off seats — he blames ‘old white lady’

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      lmfao jesus the misleadingness of it

      get your fucking feet off the seat or get off the train

      if they leave that out, I trust nothing they said about how the rest of it went

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        Sure it sucks, but involving the police in someone having their feet on the seat? Way to overreact.

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        Her comment of “you aren’t the minority anymore” starts to make some sense maybe.

        Like I infer his refusal to take feet off seat and then claim persecution when consequences happen, are nothing to do with him being black minority being picked on. So she is inferring he is being treated just like anyone else.

        But I have no way to verify that assumption

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    Immediately pointed to me and told me to correct how I was sitting.

    Old white women try to remember it’s not 1952 challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

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    This thread is strange- is this some kind of palintir/fsb operation to spread rage and despair? I’m so sick of having my emotions manipulated. Also some people should reflect on their misogyny maybe. And ageism, Americans have been trying to sell me their toxic ageism my whole life. And their racism, obviously, but also race shit stirring. Anyway fuck the internet, I left reddit because my brain was being messed with… Back to books, Tony Morrison today.

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    Most Americans don’t realize just how deeply racist some people are in this country, I’ve seen similar behavior before from white women, towards a black kid who was just hanging around in a library, and now these shitty people feel even more emboldened.

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      The “You’re not the minority anymore” part was what made me do a double take. The level of delusion these people engage in is absolutely insane.

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        Yeah I can’t make sense of it… Does she mean like, great replacement theory happened, and that white people were the minority now?

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        There’s a lot in this story that could use clarification, but that quote takes the cake. And I would love to know, were that even true, how in the world it justifies what was to follow. I’m not deranged enough to just get this.

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    How does one sit “offensively” on a train? All the coverage of this seems to just skip over that. Was he sitting with no pants? Laying across 3 seats? This is a novel one for me.

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      The article is purposely misleading.

      From another article: The Bear’ writer booted from MTA train for refusing to take feet off seats — he blames ‘old white lady’

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        Aha, there you go. I don’t think anyone should put their feet on the seat, but I also wouldn’t alert the police about this.

        I can tell why he seemed to leave that bit out of the story. His story is a lot less sympathetic if you frame it as:

        “I was sitting on the train and had my feet up on a seat. I refused to take my feet off the seat, so she complained to the conductor. Then ??? and I was getting arrested.”

        People with their feet on the seats really bothers me. It’s extra crass if the train was full and he wouldn’t move his feet, but I am not sure if this was a packed car or not. Either way, it’s disrespectful to have your feet on the seat in public transit, and I’d be curious what his exact language was when refusing. Definitely not an arrest-able offense, but this guy sounds like a jerk. I hope we get to see bodycams at one point.

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          They didn’t call the police, they went to the conductor, who in turn called the police.

          Where I live, and you don’t listen to the conductor, they will call the police that specifically handles train security. Not to arrest you but to get you off the train. In most cases it’s to fine the people that get caught without a ticket. If you really misbehave they can legally hold you until the real police arrives.

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          Yeah, its a different story where we need more context. Racist old lady has blackman arrested, vs entitled idiot was too arrogant to allow others to sit down by placing his feet on open seats. Somewhere in both of those lies the truth.

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    This is just stupid. And I mean, the arrest. You Americans seem to be subject to arrest for the stupidest things.

    Putting your feet on a seat is gross. The guy should have complied with the indication to put them down. Non compliance should have resulted in -at most- a fine. This is what would had happened in my country, and my guess, in the majority of places in the world.

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        And if they won’t, especially if they’re belligerent (we don’t know), it’s fair for the operator to have the police remove them.

        There’s a lot missing from the story and it is written for racist outrage, but it’s also plausible it was some self-centered asshole getting what he deserved

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      Laws are written in ways they can be used at the discretion of the power. Their discretion, their prerogative, their biase, their bigotry. All laws written to apply only when the power chooses are not law, but privilege.

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          Still trying to figure out which felonies get you deported and which ones get you a seat at the table. Starting to think its not about laws at all here.

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            A “seat at the table” these days requires a heady mix of culpability, and wealthy/connected enough to be useful to someone more powerful. Just monied or just a phone-call away from prison ain’t gonna cut it. That said, the clowns we see doing this are at the kid’s table.

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      He did it while black. That’s clearly an arrestable offense.

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      The article is purposely misleading.

      From another article: The Bear’ writer booted from MTA train for refusing to take feet off seats — he blames ‘old white lady’

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      The dropdown menu just doesn’t offer them the option for ‘was on a whites only train’, prob an admin error that will be soon corrected.

      /s

      But dickishness does/should have some consequences. Obviously not handcuffs consequences tho.

      Someone not occupying more than one sit on a public transport isn’t the worst thing to gatekeep.

      How it can escalate to calling the police idk.

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        If he had his feet up on another seat, and said “go fuck yourself” instead of “no” (which is a scenario compatible with the description). He still shouldn’t have been arrested.

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          I disagree. If the conductor tells someone to stop being an asshole and they curse back, they’re belligerent and noncompliant, and it’s reasonable to have the police remove them from the train.

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            I disagree. If the conductor tells someone to stop being an asshole and they curse back, they’re belligerent and noncompliant, and it’s reasonable to have the police remove them from the train.

            Cool, but that’s not disagreeing with what I said.

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    Hope he finds that woman, conductor and police chief and sues their ass (like any good it will do, but at least the internet can make a public example of her).

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    What will you do about it?

    Stay on the train and punch the Karen in the face before getting off at the next stop.

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    Conveniently, the officer body cam footage is “not available”. Absolutely insane they are making it sound like it’s his fault the train is delayed.

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    “You’re not the minority anymore.”

    Jesus fucking Christ.

    This says so much. They think “minority” means a person who gets special treatment. That’s how fucking deluded they’ve become.

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      I honestly had trouble parsing that statement until I read this comment; it was nice being stupid and ignorant for a minute.

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      Thank you. I’ve been looking for a single comment to explain the lunatic doublespeak she was using.

      MAGA is literally a cult of fascism.

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      That… explains so much. Racists are fucking jealous that black people get to be oppressed??? Is it like some martyrdom by proxy fuckedupedness?

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        Sorta. I was raised with this bullshit, so I can see the distortion of reality. I’m still unpacking all this in therapy myself, because it’s a whole worldview.

        First off, they’re woefully uneducated about history. My high school in Oklahoma briefly touched on the Civil Rights Movement and tried to pass it off as something that was over and done. Rosa Parks got arrested, the white people were shocked that this could happen, they had a sit-in party at a milkshake stand (they didn’t talk about any of the pushback that got), MLK did his speech and now everything is fine for black people, no more institutional racism, literally being taught in schools. Now, combine that with your own needs not being met, and the talking heads/politicans say that you’re not getting the aid you need because it’s going towards making hurt feelings better. There’s only so much money in the coffers, and you gotta be really hard up if you’re white, but it’s easy to get if you’re black.

        There’s also a heavy religious framing about ancestral guilt. Like, if God can make life suck for everybody because Eve ate an apple, and libs are trying to play god, it follows to reason they’d want to make your life suck for the sins of your great-great-great grandparents. It’s never outright stated, but if you listen to enough sermons, the puzzle fills in. Like, again, they think the civil rights movement fixed everything, so they think white people have atoned for their transgressions, but the pastor says libs are in consort with satan and can’t forgive like jesus, so that’s why they want white people to suffer.

        Edit: I want to make it clear that I do not personally believe any of that, it’s just what I was taught as a kid.

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          I appreciate you identifying where in the GOP’s propaganda they lead young people astray.

          People like you doing a retrospective autobiopsy via therapy can help those of growing up in other contexts protect young people from propaganda, and distribute to them the truth.

          Speak your truth! It’s only becoming more important as time goes on in this increasingly fascistic world.

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          This is why the term “color blind” is used by someone trying to go the right way, but still not getting it, which leads to the ignorance of their racism. In being blind you are blind to the fact that racism still exist and isn’t fixed. Then that leads to incorrect beliefs like “minorities are getting special priveleges and when they don’t have the same quality of life it is because of their own poor behavior” as opposed to acknowledging the systemic racism still in place.

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            Sometimes, but not always. I used to call myself colorblind, but I could see how the cops treated my black friends worse than they treated me. At one point, they rounded us up waiting at the bus stop (there was an abandoned restaurant by the bus stop, and the cops said we were trying to break in), and all my POC friends got frisked, but I was the only blonde girl, so I just got a talking to about how “hanging out with the wrong crowd will ruin my life”. Some of those kids are working on their PhD now, so “wrong crowd”, kiss my ass.

            I understood “colorblind” as a “skin tone has no bearing on how I interact with you, we’re all human”.

            I always thought that “everybody gets treated the same at first, adjust as we go along” was respectful, but then moved to the west coast and it’s apparently a horribly racist thing to do here, and I don’t understand why?? Something about how black people are going through struggles I can’t understand, but I also thought that everybody had struggles I don’t know about?

            Like, if I don’t make assumptions about somebody in a wheelchair, it’s a good thing and not ableist, but if I don’t make assumptions about a black person, it’s a bad thing and racist? I have never been able to understand how people up here think it’s less racist to stereotype an ethnicity.

            There’s also the problem with white “leftists” up here not actually knowing any POC and getting it from fucking facebook memes. Like, I had a white person once tell me, in all seriousness, that me saying “hey, what’s up” is appropriating AAVE and the correct thing to say in greeting to a black person is “I see and respect our differences”. I said that sounded patronizing as fuck, and she said I should join the kkk with that attitude.

            Unlearning racism has been an awful experience, really. I’m listening to what black people say they want, but that’s somehow still racist, and I’m so close to just giving up and doing what feels right to me.

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          My favorite part of this is the only people making the ignorant racist lives suck are the Republicans taking everything not the left asking them to be tolerant…

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            It’s like that comic about the guy with a plateful of cookies telling one guy that ta third guy is going to take his singular cookie. There are 2 types of republicans - one that takes, and one that gets taken from just as much as the left. The prior group has convinced the latter group that the actual thief is the left, who are in just as bad of a position as they are, if not worse. That’s why they can’t believe it. They’re not taking everything, at least not enough to make ends meet most of the time, same as us. It’s the much smaller fraction of rich republicans that are doing the taking. The issue is that they can’t believe that truth, and so they lash out and become a completely different problem.

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          thats because they are afraid of the power and riches they accumulated through subjugating minorities, will be used against them in retribution, so they go the extra mile , with the help aristocrats/oligarchs to keep the status quo. also white people are extra defensive when discussing racism as well. even if they arnt outwardly racist(closeted racist), i witness how they act around people that are not white , especially when they either look or approach near them.

          during covid, like in the midst of it a older white lady dint like i was getting on the train the same time i was, she said it was not nice to go before “an older lady”, i muttered bitch under my breath, you would do that to another white man or lady, but you would do that to a POC, because you will get immediate clapback from a white person over a POC. AS FAR as covid was concerned she wasnt masked, or properly masked. the entrance to train was large enough where 2 people can get on the same time.

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        on reddit, people said racist white people like that are afraid they do the same thing to them, of how they persecuted the blacks, so they act extra “im not racist, your being racist for calling out my race”. they also try to deflect white privilege as a non-existential issue.

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      Its a tale as old as time that they’d strip protections against racism, implement racist laws, and then pretend as if slavery was so long ago that it didn’t matter anymore. It was literally happening not a decade after the Civil War ended