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    AKA: How to annoy a bunch of computer nerds very quickly…

    Make one for Linux distros next!!!

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            Precisely. Getting people upset is the foremost technique to farm engagement on social media. Sites such as Facebook even deliberately altered their algorithms to show content that will anger readers because it works so well to keep them invested.

            Engagement bait is omnipresent and really obvious once you learn to spot it - even something as innocuous as one or two “accidental” typos in a meme to get people into the comments section.

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      C is more obsolete than Rust. Coding directly in assembly is rare. Beyond that it’s more subjective.

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        The C which is an integral part of every linux kernel on every computer and server running linux as the OS and all the embedded systems everywhere and almost all the performance critical parts of python libraries?

        I won’t have much to say about assembly since don’t use it but far as I know low level parts of OS such as bootloader likely still uses assembly not to also mention embedded systems.

        As long as both of these exist in embedded systems, it is just statistically weird to call it obsolete even in regards to other languages.

        For instance data scientists majorly use python, but python critically depends on C and devices they use critically depend on C and assembly. Can you then really say what they do does not depend on C and assembly and python is more widely used?

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            Compilers are pretty damn good at doing that by now.

            I can believe there’s some direct assembly usage down in the depths of Unity and Unreal engines, but the average game dev is probably not going to touch it.

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          So, the Linux kernel is already partially moved over to Rust. It’s probably in the Python ecosystem too, although I can’t actually say.

          More obsolete was a deliberate word choice. Hell, even COBOL is still used.

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            yea but Rust is not above %80 of the languages in the chart. It is not just a matter of C being more obsolete than Rust it is more like C being one of the most obsolete in the chart. Can’t call it that until it is replaced %80 by something else in systems that exists world-wide and everywhere.

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    Fortran is obsolete? I just constrained myself about to write something about your mum

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    This is a very bad chart:

    • I don’t understand what Toy Lang, Nu Lang or even System Lang mean
    • How are C and Assembly obsolete?
    • How is C++ more obsolete than D or Go?
    • PHP still powers a large portion of the internet, certainly not a “Toy Lang”
    • Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

    Downvoting.

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      This chart is easier to understand if you make the following substitutions:

      • Toy Lang --> high level language (except brainfuck really is a low level toy language)
      • System Lang --> low level language
      • Obsolete Lang --> old programming language, regardless of obsolescence status
      • Nu Lang --> newer programming language

      After understanding this construction, I fail to find any humor in this.

      Why is ECMAScript here and not JavaScript?

      Among other things, “JavaScript” is a trademark of Oracle.

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    How are you defining “Obsolete” vs “Nu”?

    e.g. Brainfuck from 1993 is all the way to Nu, while D (2001) and Rust (2012) are less “Nu”?

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    Assembly being obsolete has to be the funniest joke in here. It fundamentally never will be even if its use is niche

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    It wouldn’t be a good compass if nobody had strong issues with it:

    1. System vs Toy is not opposed to each other. Should have been system vs abstract or useful vs toy or whatever
    2. Where LISP? Best language missing makes graph bad

    Edit: before people tell me there’s already ‘obsolete’ on the graph, no, there’s loads of obsolete languages that are still useful, and many more new languages that are either built for fun or not used for sad or good reasons.

    Edit2: I’m also halfway sure that brainfuck is older than rust (but don’t wanna look it up). But if that’s true your axis mean several things at once anyway and you should feel bad (not really though).

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      As a Ruby fan having a blast with Elixir, where the hell is anything BEAM related?

      The compass is truly political.