NIST says 2035 should be the target date for organizations to get to something quantum resistant. The talk I saw at DefCon this year laid out a very convincing argument that due to advancements in the implementation of Shorr’s, as well as one other algorithm, that’s not an aggressive enough target and we should really be shooting for 2030. Apparently IBM has never missed a target date, and they’re looking at having enough logical Qubits by 2032 or so.

Still seems like voodoo to me

I’ve heard this before but I still can’t wrap my head around why some money counts and some doesn’t

This is the opposite of bag holding though, isn’t it? Since it’s an expanded offering to sell?

He got it right (which makes sense; he coined the term); OP didn’t.