The Guardian has visited three frontline hospitals to hear from women who say they have been left fearful of childbirth after more than 80 attacks on maternity units since Russia’s full-scale invasion
  • bubblybubbles@lemmy.mlEnglish
    376·
    3 days ago

    ha ha oh look western propaganda

    Looks inside

    .world community

    Oh ur serious, instance checks out

    • Ciderpunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
      473·
      3 days ago

      Are you claiming the 81 Russian attacks on maternity centers didn’t happen, or that they did and it just isn’t a big deal?

      How incompetent would Russia need to be to “accidentally” attack 81 maternity centers? Unless you think Ukraine is just covered in maternity centers for some reason?

      Please clearly state which part of this is untrue. Just saying “western propaganda” is a thought terminating cliche and you know it.

      • Diplomjodler@lemmy.worldEnglish
        303·
        3 days ago

        That didn’t happen.
        And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
        And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
        And if it is, that’s not Putin’s fault.
        And if it was, he didn’t mean it.
        And if he did, the Ukrainians deserved it.

      • bubblybubbles@lemmy.mlEnglish
        114·
        3 days ago

        Why don’t you research that yourself, look for news sources that aren’t western media or their “we’re abso not western media, but still tout their narratives” lap dogs and you’ll start seeing a wildly different story

        • Ciderpunk@lemmy.worldEnglish
          161·
          3 days ago

          Two great assumptions here; that I don’t already read “non-western news sources” and that any different narrative is somehow more true?

          Just because Putin says he’s “liberating” Ukraine doesn’t make it any more true than when the Nazis said they were “liberating” Poland. Non-western sources have exactly as much reason to lie to you as western sources do, and it’s kinda up to you to figure that out instead of slavishly consuming state media but it’s a different state so it must be more gooder!

      • mrbutterscotch@feddit.orgEnglish
        81·
        2 days ago

        I swear to God they all must have lead poisoning or something. Had one try to explain to me how China is more democratic then Western Countries and that the working class rules in China.

        • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          I’d say the country where the working class has the most control is France. Their proletariat is 100% willing to use violence to get their way, and the politicians know it.

    • OboTheHobo@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      31·
      2 days ago

      To some people “seeing through western propaganda” means deciding what to believe by whatever the opposite of western forces want

      Hate to break it to you but that’s not thinking for yourself, in fact it takes no more self reflection and thought than it would to just blindly believe it all

    • Marei@lemmy.worldEnglish
      213·
      3 days ago

      Instead of disgustingly mocking victims of war crimes and revelling in human tragedy, just go away and be one of Putin’s useful idiots with the other tankies in one of your tankie communities.