I don’t want to get into it too much, but consider this analogy: let’s say a person is tied to a chair wired with a bomb. The bomb explodes, and they die. What killed them? Personally, I’d say it was the bomb, not the rope or chair.
I reject the analogy. I’ve already stated the options any normal person would have had that would have kept them alive… and those options are quite simple of “walk to the neighbor’s house”.
Once again, I’m GOING to sound hateful, even though I harbor no actual hate (do what you want with your life… but there’s consequences to everything). I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
It’s even worse in this case as it’s well understood that fat people hold heat longer. The fat acts as a literal barrier to shedding heat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30454605/
With your argument… since being fat in of itself is never on a death certificate, it’s impossible to die for being fat. It’s always cardio issues, diabetes, kidney, or airway issues… That’s nonsense. Those issues existed because of the persons obesity. Why would this situation be any different than the others?
Edit: Calling 911 would have also been an option once he started overheating… So I also have to wonder about the family members part of the situation. And his own inability to dial 3 digits on his phone as well.
we need a goodwins law for hating on fat people because it is inevitable there’s gonna be at least one person who ‘harbors no actual hate’ but ‘insert stupid here’
A person admitting that they recognize their own issues isn’t automatically self-hate. I harbor no hate for myself. I recognize that my weight is a medical issue and that I need to control it. No part of my choice to actively recognize my issues is self-hate. However, I find your interest in categorizing MY feelings as quite disgusting behavior.
I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
Since you apparently are unable to read, I’ll repost this portion of my comment just for you.
I’m 100% aware of my own problems and am dealing with them.
I would highly suggest you work on your reading skills before pointing fingers of your own next time.
This is kind of a weak response that doesn’t address any of the actual points made and yet itself judgementally points moral fingers around. Calling someone a bad (and non-self-aware?) person is not a good way to prove them wrong.
I don’t want to get into it too much, but consider this analogy: let’s say a person is tied to a chair wired with a bomb. The bomb explodes, and they die. What killed them? Personally, I’d say it was the bomb, not the rope or chair.
I reject the analogy. I’ve already stated the options any normal person would have had that would have kept them alive… and those options are quite simple of “walk to the neighbor’s house”.
Once again, I’m GOING to sound hateful, even though I harbor no actual hate (do what you want with your life… but there’s consequences to everything). I speak this from a place of being overweight myself. You can’t let it get to this point. I personally don’t get the stupid signal from my stomach that I’m actually full. My brain tells me all the fucking time that I’m hungry even though I’m not. I get the problem though I’ve never been this far down the road myself.
It’s even worse in this case as it’s well understood that fat people hold heat longer. The fat acts as a literal barrier to shedding heat. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30454605/
With your argument… since being fat in of itself is never on a death certificate, it’s impossible to die for being fat. It’s always cardio issues, diabetes, kidney, or airway issues… That’s nonsense. Those issues existed because of the persons obesity. Why would this situation be any different than the others?
Edit: Calling 911 would have also been an option once he started overheating… So I also have to wonder about the family members part of the situation. And his own inability to dial 3 digits on his phone as well.
we need a goodwins law for hating on fat people because it is inevitable there’s gonna be at least one person who ‘harbors no actual hate’ but ‘insert stupid here’
That’s quite interesting respond… The next part after “harbor no actual hate” is me talking about my own weight issues.
Apparently the qualifier of my own issues is “insert stupid here”.
Are you actually going to add something to the discussion? Address any of the points? Or just be judgmental yourself?
self hate is often the root
the biggest homophobes I’ve ever met was a gay couple in Alabama
Right, got it.
And skip on both other options completely.
A person admitting that they recognize their own issues isn’t automatically self-hate. I harbor no hate for myself. I recognize that my weight is a medical issue and that I need to control it. No part of my choice to actively recognize my issues is self-hate. However, I find your interest in categorizing MY feelings as quite disgusting behavior.
lmao how ever you want to frame it no one is buying it
Yeah, you do. Judgementalism is hateful.
How about you sit down and really consider your own fallibilities, weaknesses and self-centredness before pointing fingers at anyone else.
Since you apparently are unable to read, I’ll repost this portion of my comment just for you.
I’m 100% aware of my own problems and am dealing with them.
I would highly suggest you work on your reading skills before pointing fingers of your own next time.
This is kind of a weak response that doesn’t address any of the actual points made and yet itself judgementally points moral fingers around. Calling someone a bad (and non-self-aware?) person is not a good way to prove them wrong.