add them to the list of collaborators
Time to add Toyota to the list of companies I am now boycotting. Fuck it’s getting to the point where I will need to live in the wilderness and make all my own shit from scratch, and ride a horse and buggy.
Yeah it really is.
Im getting a bit nutty about it. Every time someone mentions starlink I rage a little bit and its hard to resist a rant.
There are several cyber truck owners in my town, (2 on the same street.) When I see them on the road driving, I flip them off and curse as loud as I can. Those were released a bit before Elon went full Nazi. Anyone that bought them is a straight up Nazi in my book, and deserves to be publicly shamed for it.
Al the rich people are selfish fascist cunts, change my mind.
As an Al assistant I can confirm most rich people are selfish fascists cunts. To change your mind, I could allude to cases where people have not become rich due to selfish exploitative practices:
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Lottery Winners
Lottery winners are chosen from a pool of people who become rich through chance, and would not necessarily be selfish fascists cunts.
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Accidental Leprechaun Vehicular Manslaughter
Running over a leprechaun would allow you to obtain possession of his pot of gold while sparring the world of their mischief.
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People named Rich
People named Rich are Rich, and would not necessarily be selfish fascists cunts.-
Oh shut up Richie.
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Remember the CEO of Nissan got into a box and fled Japan to avoid prosecution.
Nissan gave heaps of money to Japan’s facists for their colonies. Look up “comfort women” if you want to know what was done with the money.
Look up what Ford and General Motors did for the fucking Nazis.
No thanks
Wow, he’s really not reading the country very well is he? 2020, that was a 50/50 move, piss off half the country, earn the support from half of it. (again just talking on a purely business strategy), unless the millitary is about to buy a shitload of toyota’s, I don’t see how this isn’t a horrific play.
They’re a Japanese brand known for cheap, reliable, sensible cars, do they expect loyalty from the Make America Great Again crowd?
I wouldnt be surprised if MAGAts buys more overseas than the average American. Their whole merch is made in Asia.
Buying overseas isn’t something kind of moral failure lmao bluMAGA. Who else but the skidoo dealership owner who drops 1K to fly to DC on J6 is paying 50K+ for a working class affect?
Im sorry, I didnt understand any of that.
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If the MAGAts do buy foreign, that’s not an effective line of attack, trying to out-nationalist the fascists by attacking them for buying foreign goods is depressingly in-line for libs whose only disagreement with Trump is aesthetic.
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If MAGAts aren’t buying the overpriced pick-ups Ford and GM are churning out, who is?
I didnt try to attack them for buying foreign, maybe I misunderstood your comment. I thought you meant Toyota being a Japanese brand would make it unattractive for them, thats what I was commenting on.
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Except in North America, where a huge focus is on trucks. Just look at how some dipshit chud in Twitter got them to scrub a ton of their LGBT and DEI stuff by posting about their “woke” trucks when their did a pride flag Tacoma. They desperately want to take that market share as it’s far, far more profitable than stuff like the Camry.
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Oh. My '06 Solara is still running so I haven’t had to actually compare brands in 15 years.
I don’t think I’ll be buying another car when it finally finishes shitting the bed, but if I have to it’ll probably be a Honda. Those are still more reliable than anything american or euro at the same price-point right?
Sorry, deleted my comment because I didn’t want to get into a war with anyone about MSRP vs Dealer pricing.
Honda has been pretty good for years. I’ve seen scuttlebutt of people saying certain models, like the Civic, have dropped the ball lately but I cannot verify that.
I bought a Subaru Forester recently and it’s my first Subaru. LOVE it. I posted my pros in a comment above. My only con is the stupid large touch screen and the shitty software running it. I think that’s true of pretty much most brands lately though.
These people are living in a different world than the rest of us. He IS reading the room, but we aren’t even in the room that he’s reading.
I think the business strategy here is sucking up to a dictator who can decide on a whim that Toyota is now the only American car brand allowed to be American and sell American cars. Or that Toyota parts are exempt from tariffs. Or that Toyotas are subsidised with 300% ontop by tax payer money. Looking at the current situation I dont even think this is a bad decision from a purely capitalist viewpoint, but its cowardly as fuck.
Tesla is not doing very well after Elon fully embraced Maga
Not really imo. They are doing about 100 times better than I could have imagined in my wildest dreams after what Elon pulled. Their stock went up from last year, they have a literal trillion dollars to spare for Elons pocket money. Sure, theres some whining about sales and internal troubles, most of it probably for show to make Donald Rapist cough up some tax payer money to “save the industry”. I think we are at a point where reputation literally means nothing for a big corporation. Look at Nestle, they are evil in every single aspect, everyone knows it, and they are doing better than ever and dont see the need to change anything. Being evil simply works, and by now corporations are realizing they dont even have to pretend they arent anymore.
Unfortunately they kind of are… it’s kind of the insanity of the system we live in… their car sales are down everywhere, but they are making more from government contracts and AI speculation.
Which yeah was part of why my added exception was if the military is going to buy a shit ton of toyotas. Government perks have ot outweigh loss in sales
the words you are looking for are crony capitalism and has 0 to do with actual tesla output
Japan has a new far-right-populist/Maga adjacent government. I’m sure that also plays into it somehow - both on Trump’s side (“let’s give good deals to our friends in spirit”) and the CEO reading the room nationally. My first thought here is therefore opportunism, in its slimiest form.
He’s not vying for customers. He’s sucking up to Trump in the hopes of getting preferential treatment for his company
We’ve seen over and over again, companies that praise him, or bribe him, are getting business advantages from the Trump administration
This is how fascism succeeds. Everyone falls in line and sucks up in the hopes of getting preferential treatment.
People ask “how did the Nazis do what they did?”. This is how. This is exactly how.
2020, that was a 50/50 move, piss off half the country, earn the support from half of it.
No, it always would have been a net loss.
Toyota sells a lot internationally while basically 0% of the international customers see Trump or MAGA in a positive light…2020, that was a 50/50 move
2020, the height of his first term incompetence at height of COVID, a year so comically bad it has specials about it? Nah, maybe 2016-2019 it would be maybe near that, any time after, not at all.
I did mess that up, did mean early 2016, or even early 2024.
oh my god why
What do you mean why? Companies exist to make money not support moral causes or take a stand.
If Trump’s replaced by leftist or whatever companies will change their tune immediately in the other direction. They don’t care about being hypocritical and they don’t give a shit that you are boycotting because the demented Dorito is a bigger threat to their bottom line at the moment.
Right but what are they actually getting from outwardly showing their support? Surely staying neutral in the public eye is better for business? They just pissed off half their US customers
That outward support is what makes Trump goon. It’s also by far the cheapest option.
As much as you see the whinging in this thread most people will never see this stuff and don’t buy cars that often.
This is a really fucking weird time to board the trump train. Like, right now is ESPECIALLY a weird time in particular.
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I wonder how much longer maga in its current form will exist. Seems like the levee has broken.
Sad to hear as a long time Toyota fan, but really not that impactful personally. The cars from Toyota have really dropped off quality wise post 2019, and used market purchases don’t give any money to the company.
Indirectly, it does as you’ll likely buy parts in the future for it through Toyota. It really angers me, I’m a Toyota Stan. I have a 1st gen 4Runner and a Lexus RX and convinced my wife to buy a Rav 4 which she loves. I genuinely want to hear an apology from this fascist cunt. I don’t plan on buying a car in the near future, but when and if I am in the market, this will weigh heavily on my decision making.
Yeah im suddenly a bit lost.
I was hoping to by a 78 series truck / ute in 3 or 4 years. Every time I see one i marvel at them.
Now that dream is ruined.
This is satire, right?
Right?
I saw this the other day and thought he was making fun of maga. But now I don’t know. Honda or shit, even Nissan at this point…the Pathfinder is like 8k below MSRP by me. For a bigger car and V6 compared to a 4runner.
I’m with you. After that stupid stunt, I will look at the Nissan, Honda and Mazda selection. Toyota is scratched off the list.
Yup. And my wife was set on the new 4runner SR5. Which was always risky because #1 it’s a turbo, it will always be more unreliable than an NA. With Honda and Nissan keeping their V6s, nissan with their ZF 9speed auto trans on Pathfinder, Frontier, Armada and Titan. Honda with their Honda 10speed auto and also keeping V6 on Pilot and Passport. It’s a tough choice between the two.
Might as well wear a shirt that says I like money and whore myself for it.
The thing is he’s going to ruin his company in the longer term. So they’re not even really making money sustainably.
Longer term? Sustainably? What are those words? I like money!
- every CEO
Welcome to modern capitalism, where long term sustainable gains are second to short term profit, and destroying a company for the latter is considered “financial genius”.
Am I going to have to get a bumper sticker saying I don’t support that shit? Dammit.
Jesus, what a fucking moron lol.
Stupidity or desperation? Things are nowhere near optimal in the auto industry.
When is the last time Japan let USA sell their cars in Japan at Japanse dealership while bypassing Japanese automotive standards, laws, and homologation?
When?
According to a recent White House statement, Toyota intends to “export its U.S.-made vehicles to Japan and open its distribution platform in Japan to U.S. automakers.” The Trump administration also noted Japan has decided to allow sales of American-made vehicles and “U.S. safety-certified vehicles” without additional testing.
I’m currently considering new vehicles, and Toyotas have won the debate numerous times over the last 40 years, but they are now out of consideration until this CEO is gone. I don’t support Traitors or Pedophiles, nor those who do.
Mazda’s are often overlooked. They’re very reliable and nice to drive. As a hobbyist/sometimes-professional mechanic, I’ve seen plenty with 300k+ miles on em and I’ve thoroughly enjoyed the three Mazdas I’ve owned.
You can also get a used toyota and use aftermarket parts for repairs. Timken, Aisen, Denso, and NGK (among others) are all OEM suppliers, so you can buy the exact same parts from them for less.
Mazda’s also gone way upmarket with their new inline 6 engines and the newer cars in general. Supposedly the early ones aren’t great, but overall they offer way more refinement than any 4 banger could dream to. We’ll see what the long term reliability is of course, but I have no doubt it’ll be good.
New off the line, or new to you? It doesn’t really support the manufacturer when buying used.
I’d still be driving the brand. I think I’ll just avoid them for a while, lots of other cars out there.
Crossing Toyota off the list of potential next cars
I mean, Asian culture does seem to have an unhealthy fascination with Nazis.
As early as 2000, Time did a piece on the country’s Third Reich–themed bars. That trend never fully took off, but it’s still fairly common for Korean teens to cosplay as Gestapo agents.
Known widely as Nazi chic, it’s different from the skinhead or punk swag you find in the West. The trend stretches beyond Korea—in China it was fashionable to dress up like Nazi officers in wedding photos, and a Hong Kong store once hung Nazi banners throughout their shop. In India, a Hitler boutique (with a swastika dotting the i) opened in Ahmedabad in 2012. In Indonesia, Soldatenkaffee, a bar named after a Parisian Nazi hangout and decked out with Hitler quotes and Third Reich flags, has (despite a temporary closure due to outrage) operated in Bandung since 2011; the Indonesia pop star Ahmad Dhani recently performed at a rally for 2014 presidential candidate Prabowo Subianto in Nazi regalia.
But the worst offender in Asia is Thailand. In 2007, some Thai students had a Nazi-themed parade, and in 2012 a school held an SS sports rally. Some Thai language books that use Hitler in their exercises, and a Bangkok KFC knockoff briefly called itself Hitler and used the Führer’s face in place of Colonel Sanders’s. In 2013, the country’s top university had to apologize when students painted a giant mural of superheroes that included Hitler, with which they posed Sieg Heil-ing. And naturally they have Nazi-themed pop groups as well.
And these are only the major, international-headline-drawing cases. From Cambodia to Japan to Myanmar, it’s fairly common to encounter vendors in markets selling swastika-adorned bike helmets, T-shirts featuring Hitler’s mustachioed mug, and Ché-esque Adolf posters of all sorts.
