Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can’t trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.

A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please… and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money… these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.

Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people… but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.

But, alas… It’s Musk saying it so it’s only to further enrich himself and won’t actually happen.

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    Isn’t this the same guy who tweeted that he would end world hunger for something less than $6 billion if the World Food Programme would supply a plan? And then WFP supplied the plan. And then Musk just…didn’t supply the funs to prevent people from starving.

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    "Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could “follow you around and stop you from doing crime,” he said

    This is going to last all of 30 seconds as that is the amount of time it’ll take for a criminal to hop a cyclone fence and take off never to be seen again. Or we can have the 10 minute scenario where criminal and friends take sledgehammers to the thing and sell it for scrap.

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    I’m not even going to look up what “Optimus” is. I don’t waste time on this clown anymore.

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      You just know already he’s gonna scam, grift and cheat to get that pay package, not do anything worthwhile.

      And if he can’t get it, he’ll cry and sue to get it anyway.

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    Can the rich should stop running all the cool stuff, please? Optimus, Anduril, palantir, lambas, mithril… Every childhood memory tainted by evil businessmen

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    Perhaps he should get Full Self Driving to work first… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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    in the oligarchs dialect it translates to “eliminate the poor not useful for slave labour”

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    I’d be surprised if the build one working robot in the next ten years

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    You should look up where the word robot came from originally.

    So long as there are humans who value power and control and can propagandize the populace to support them, a world where all people can live comfortably and happily as equals will never exist.

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    By “eliminate poverty” he means let robots do all the jobs the poors do and let the poors die.

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      If you’re talking world wide you could give everyone on earth that is currently in poverty about $1200. That’s enough to help a great deal in poor countries, but it would be very temporary. If you’re talking just the USA, you’d be giving everyone in poverty $30k. That would certainly keep people out of poverty for a while. But under capitalism where people have to work many would be back in poverty in a year. Cash infusion would only work if it was permanent like a UBI.

      Even if you spent that money to build free housing all over the country, it wouldn’t be enough to end poverty, though that would probably be the best use of the money. Just flood the market with housing availability and living gets way cheaper.

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        You could eliminate a bunch of systemic issues with a trillion dollars that would amount to essentially ending many of the effects of poverty for most people in poverty I would think.

        Things like food insecurity, shelter, etc.

        You’re right that just spending a trillion dollars as a one off grant to everyone in poverty wouldn’t do much, though. It’d need to be used strategically.

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          It’s the covid checks versus the infrastructure bill lmao. Should we give everyone $1200 or like build roads that everyone uses. Clearly one has long term economic impacts and one has short term economic impacts.

          Same with how you acquire the money. Raising annual taxes vs civil forfeiture. All this shit is just a distraction from turning the tax system upside down and not relying on the poor/middle class to fund profits for the .01%

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        I mean yes if we as individuals go out and spend said money immediately on food it’s not going to last long. But if a village put their $1200 together to build critical infrastructure they could make life much better with their share. It’s like a government spending program or something!

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    This guy couldn’t even get autonomous vehicles to work properly. No reason to believe he has the skills to do any of this beyond the fact that we know his morals are fucked up.

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      He can’t even hire people that can do it let alone do any of it himself.

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    LMAO! My friend, he’s just saying it so he can get the government to buy a bunch of robots so he can meet the Tesla pay agreement requirements and become a trillionaire. There are so many reasons what your fantasy can’t and won’t happen.

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    It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.

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      That’s not money, that’s power. Money quits being money somewhere around a million dollars a year-ish, call it 100M lump sum. Above that, more money isn’t an abstract thing you buy goods, services and real-estate with, it’s power: the power to command other people to do your bidding.

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        He bought the whole US president. Watch him kill SLS and Gateway the second Issacman gets confirmed as head NASA admin. I don’t know why private companies don’t fund their own shit rather than steal from taxpayerS through NASA.

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              Is that why most politicians, musicians, comedians etc, still treat it as their main platforms to get info out? Because they don’t take it seriously?

              The big problem is actually that they do. That social inertia works so slowly that they didn’t.

              That some random crypto company making Bluesky was the closest to a solution, and it looks like it will also have some power crazed person leading it.

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            I still think there’s a difference.

            When people talk about wielding money like power, its more along the lines of

            • if you don’t do what I say, I’ll destroy you by doing XYZ.
            • you better change your laws or I can fuck shit up in some way.
            • I can break the law because you can’t fucking touch me.
            • Your example: the power to command other people to do your bidding.

            For Twitter he actually used his wealth as actual money to buy something you would buy with money.

            He did get power from it yes, but I still think there’s a distinction when talking about wiedling it as power vs using money as money.

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              Gotta say this difference seems very arbitrary. He bought a company, and platform. Both direct how people spend their time. A platform is obvious but a company, he directs what the people who work there work on. Its definitely a match to somewhere far past where money buys you things.

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              There’s all kinds of power and influence of people through the press is a very traditional kind of indirect power for people to wield. When I talk about money as power it definitely includes the power to influence how people think and vote and act without putting an actual gun to their heads. Twitter is the new TV and TV was the new radio and the radio was the new newspaper… All kinds of wealthy and powerful people in the past sought control of the press, not only for their own desires, but also as a bargaining chip with other people with power: “do this for me and I’ll make you look good on my platform…”

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      These are forward looking claims on something they are building. It’s not quite the same.

      FSD is closer, but it is an improving product.

      It’d be more like if FSD wasn’t ever improving even and yet he still kept making the claims.

      He should still be punished for the FSD stuff though.