I know no one is going to like this, but sincere question- how does being mean to cops make any of our issues better?
Like interfering with their ability to get things done, recording their interactions with the public, etc seem productive. But empty antagonism seems like a good way to inspire greater antipathy for the public that makes issues worse… At least with being mean to ice (who, to be fair, are also cops) it seems more likely the public disdain for them is a large enough amount of the population to make them feel ashamed of themselves, helped along by that fact their actions are more clearly abhorrent at an individual scale, making it easer for those voices to impact them.
But I think with regular cops it’s too easy for them to still think of themselves as good guys doing an important service, and I don’t see “being mean to them” as likely to actually have an positive impact on the issues we’re facing
I would be open to thoughts on how it would make things better though! Just because I don’t how it would help doesn’t mean it necessarily wouldn’t, but intuitively it seems to me like it’d be counter productive in most cases
By removing the cultural respect they have. If they are routinely seen as the bad guys, the attraction to the profession is diminished. We begin to make a career in law enforcement similar to used car salesman and telemarketers. People will routinely disrespect them. Power hungry morons will think twice before going into those jobs.
As someone who has been verbally abused and called names by an aggressive cop while his partner had his hand on his gun… most people in the U.S. think all cops are good, and anyone who was on their bad side did something to deserve it. I flipped off a taxi, for the record. The cop thought I flipped him off, pulled me over, and screamed at me. I was 19.
Even my own family thinks I did it. “That’s why you don’t flip off cops.” Cool…
People also think cops deserve to be shitty because of “what they put up with,” while we have to be on our best behavior or risk death.
What does one bad apple do? It spoils the whole bunch. Police are a spoiled bunch. Fuck cops forever.
I think this is a fair argument. I’m not sure if I see “being mean to them” as necessarily playing out this way, or being the best way to achieve that end (one can have no respect without being insulted/verbally attacked. Creating a stronger “us vs them” has explicit risks to our communities), but I can see the point you’re making
I appreciate the sincere answer :) hope you have a lovely day!
I know no one is going to like this, but sincere question- how does being mean to cops make any of our issues better?
Like interfering with their ability to get things done, recording their interactions with the public, etc seem productive. But empty antagonism seems like a good way to inspire greater antipathy for the public that makes issues worse… At least with being mean to ice (who, to be fair, are also cops) it seems more likely the public disdain for them is a large enough amount of the population to make them feel ashamed of themselves, helped along by that fact their actions are more clearly abhorrent at an individual scale, making it easer for those voices to impact them.
But I think with regular cops it’s too easy for them to still think of themselves as good guys doing an important service, and I don’t see “being mean to them” as likely to actually have an positive impact on the issues we’re facing
I would be open to thoughts on how it would make things better though! Just because I don’t how it would help doesn’t mean it necessarily wouldn’t, but intuitively it seems to me like it’d be counter productive in most cases
Specifically obstructing law enforcement (especially ICE) or wasting their time stops them from carrying out fascist orders.
Absolutely!
By removing the cultural respect they have. If they are routinely seen as the bad guys, the attraction to the profession is diminished. We begin to make a career in law enforcement similar to used car salesman and telemarketers. People will routinely disrespect them. Power hungry morons will think twice before going into those jobs.
This is 100% why for me.
As someone who has been verbally abused and called names by an aggressive cop while his partner had his hand on his gun… most people in the U.S. think all cops are good, and anyone who was on their bad side did something to deserve it. I flipped off a taxi, for the record. The cop thought I flipped him off, pulled me over, and screamed at me. I was 19.
Even my own family thinks I did it. “That’s why you don’t flip off cops.” Cool…
People also think cops deserve to be shitty because of “what they put up with,” while we have to be on our best behavior or risk death.
What does one bad apple do? It spoils the whole bunch. Police are a spoiled bunch. Fuck cops forever.
I think this is a fair argument. I’m not sure if I see “being mean to them” as necessarily playing out this way, or being the best way to achieve that end (one can have no respect without being insulted/verbally attacked. Creating a stronger “us vs them” has explicit risks to our communities), but I can see the point you’re making
I appreciate the sincere answer :) hope you have a lovely day!
You’re welcome. Back at ya. Be excellent.