They need to have their voting rights suspended. There’s an election coming up and the liberal opposition stand a decent chance, especially if Orban doesn’t have the means of doing an Erdogan. If so, keeping a deorbanised Hungary in the EU and NATO would be a good thing.
Sorry, but fuck this mentality. As an EU citizen, this is your fault. You voted for this for the past 20 years.
The EU has given incalculable money to Orbán while opposition politicians in the EP were asking you all to stop doing that, give the money directly to municipalities or at least check where it’s going. There was zero enforcement even after case after case after case of blatant misuse uncovered. Most of that money ended up paying for a propaganda apparatus that has kept Hungarians in fear for the past 15 years, destroyed communities and families and fomented hate not just domestically, but across Europe. Le Pen was supported from that stolen money. Also the AfD.
But since Orbán was buddy-buddy with your oligarchs, particularly the German car industry, it was all fine. You voted politicians like Merkel in while her buddy Orbán was pushing through things like German car factories only having to pay out overtime three years after accrued, and only if it was not offset with being given less hours years later. We protested that, we were on the streets, there was not one quip from the EU.
And when the recent crises hit, you were all fine with VW laying people off in Germany while keeping the vulnerable Hungarian workers, and only when the chickens really came home to roost, when Orbán is making a fool out of the EU and its leaders on the world stage again and again, now the EU turns off the unlimited money. And just after that happens, we start to clean your mess up, and he’s on his way out. This could have happened 10-15 years ago, and we wouldn’t be in this mess, but the industry needed its wage slaves.
Yet, German and French and whichever other countries’ leadership did not learn one bit. They prop up Vucic, who the incredibly brave students and protestors of Serbia are standing up to, despite being shot at by Western sound cannons. And I won’t even bring up the reluctance of everyone to stop arming a genocidal army in Israel after its leader was indicted by the ICC.
Orbán was pushing through things like German car factories only having to pay out overtime three years after accrued, and only if it was not offset with being given less hours years later.
Wait… I think I’m understanding this but it’s so absurd I want to double check.
If you work over time today, you don’t get paid the over time for 3 years? And if in those 3 years, you get less hour for some reason, it eats away at the over time?
Correct. That’s the law in Hungary. Remember the whole supply chain issue a few years ago? That destroyed a bunch of overtime built up for a lot of people though production shutdowns.
The same law raised the overtime limit to 400 hours per year from 250. It also let employers bypass unions on overtime negotiations as well.
Great, thanks for actually caring on matters outside USA, and behaving like an actual ally to Europe.
Best wishes on getting rid of the Republicans, sooner would be better.
I didn’t know that losing their voting abilities was an option. The people that say that the US needs a civil war aren’t paying attention. It’s already started.
Hungary needs to be kicked out of the EU
They need to have their voting rights suspended. There’s an election coming up and the liberal opposition stand a decent chance, especially if Orban doesn’t have the means of doing an Erdogan. If so, keeping a deorbanised Hungary in the EU and NATO would be a good thing.
Sorry, but fuck this mentality. As an EU citizen, this is your fault. You voted for this for the past 20 years.
The EU has given incalculable money to Orbán while opposition politicians in the EP were asking you all to stop doing that, give the money directly to municipalities or at least check where it’s going. There was zero enforcement even after case after case after case of blatant misuse uncovered. Most of that money ended up paying for a propaganda apparatus that has kept Hungarians in fear for the past 15 years, destroyed communities and families and fomented hate not just domestically, but across Europe. Le Pen was supported from that stolen money. Also the AfD.
But since Orbán was buddy-buddy with your oligarchs, particularly the German car industry, it was all fine. You voted politicians like Merkel in while her buddy Orbán was pushing through things like German car factories only having to pay out overtime three years after accrued, and only if it was not offset with being given less hours years later. We protested that, we were on the streets, there was not one quip from the EU.
And when the recent crises hit, you were all fine with VW laying people off in Germany while keeping the vulnerable Hungarian workers, and only when the chickens really came home to roost, when Orbán is making a fool out of the EU and its leaders on the world stage again and again, now the EU turns off the unlimited money. And just after that happens, we start to clean your mess up, and he’s on his way out. This could have happened 10-15 years ago, and we wouldn’t be in this mess, but the industry needed its wage slaves.
Yet, German and French and whichever other countries’ leadership did not learn one bit. They prop up Vucic, who the incredibly brave students and protestors of Serbia are standing up to, despite being shot at by Western sound cannons. And I won’t even bring up the reluctance of everyone to stop arming a genocidal army in Israel after its leader was indicted by the ICC.
Wait… I think I’m understanding this but it’s so absurd I want to double check.
If you work over time today, you don’t get paid the over time for 3 years? And if in those 3 years, you get less hour for some reason, it eats away at the over time?
Correct. That’s the law in Hungary. Remember the whole supply chain issue a few years ago? That destroyed a bunch of overtime built up for a lot of people though production shutdowns.
The same law raised the overtime limit to 400 hours per year from 250. It also let employers bypass unions on overtime negotiations as well.
Look up “rabszolgatörvény” or the “Slave Law”.
As a US citizen I didn’t vote for any of this shit. I voted for Harris, and have no say in the EU.
Great, thanks for actually caring on matters outside USA, and behaving like an actual ally to Europe.
Best wishes on getting rid of the Republicans, sooner would be better.
Then why do you care? Or how are you not more understanding?
It’s like people saying the US deserves to go to civil war and have people die because some of them elected Trump.
I didn’t know that losing their voting abilities was an option. The people that say that the US needs a civil war aren’t paying attention. It’s already started.
Unfortunately from here it looks like only one side is actually fighting. It does not look good.