• NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
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      This is the wrong question. Instead of implying that California should secede and become independent one should flip the question and ask the same thing about Texas. If Texas seceded the U.S. would likely never have to cater to the Republicans again.

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          they’d still be next door and based on how things are going with relations with the other neighbors I imagine relations would be even shittier than they already are.

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        Do nothing about it? They have nearly 30,000 firefighters, more than any other state in the union, more than most countries in the world.

        They pay billions more in taxes than they receive in aid, and you’re salty because they have the nerve to ask for help when wildfires threaten people’s homes and safety?

        Get bent.

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            Sounds like you should apply for a job in the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, seeing as you’ve got it all figured out.

            In fact, you should try sending them a letter with all of your suggestions! I’m sure they would appreciate any amount of your in-depth knowledge of forest fire prevention that you could provide them

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              This is a hard fallacy. Plenty of usa states under support their water systems, and im supposed to send them a letter telling them to spend their money better? Ha!

              There’s hundreds of studies and research on this. Ca just wont make this a priority…and why should they? They get a free handout for fires.

              My state needs to focus on our own fires, homeless, children in school. Giving up our human resources for another just kicks our resources to another who isn’t managing their house.

              One citation for you: https://www.netzerocalifornia.org/blog/how-can-california-pay-for-wildfire-prevention-at-scale

              If you wont take care of your states natural resources, a letter from an out of state citizen wont change the ledger.

              Either you care about the environment and want it fixed, or you dont want it fixed and support the finger in the da that leads to death and property destruction every year 40 years running.

              If your neighbors house is on fire, give them a hose, help and support

              But after the 40th time, your perspective should change to “the nEighbor is the problem.”

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            Okay, but then with how much tax money they send away from their own state, they could actually fix all that. If they wanted to, anyway.

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              Can’t join your mentality that those w money shouldn’t pay taxes, that elitism isn’t ok for billionaires and it isn’t ok for a state.

              They could fix it by upping their budget allocation from .5% of their budget to 2%. But they wont.

              It’s like a bad landlord, who has a trashy property and won’t clean it up and just complains why does trash end up on my property?

              If landlord won’t care for their property, who is supposed to?

              Obviously the owner.

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                It’s not elitism. The Feds are now corrupt and hostile to California. The country is broken as the federal government is failing to follow its obligations. There isn’t much hope this will change for the foreseeable future. The best route is separation.

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                And suggesting I leave my park system for another state is exactly what im advocating against.

                My park systems fires are limited to when one sets a trash can on fire. Because we work hard on it in my east coast state.

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        Lmao but you’ll cry if you stop receiving their taxes, several times more than any low education red state lmao. Blue states keep red states alive, literally.

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          Nope, im blue state, I pay fuck ton of taxes.

          But 40 years of constant mismanagement of natural resources speaks for itself. I’m a park professional, this is basic stuff.

          But throw good money after bad, while people are homeless. Throw your money away if you want.

          I’ll at least complain about it.