• DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Yeah because nobody wants to start with nothing only to work for nothing for the rest of their lives. Were just unlucky enough to learn about your exploitation before we enter the iob market.

  • Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net
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    19 hours ago

    Man, I’ve heard the job market is rough, but I didn’t know it was this dour.

    I think what will ultimately happen is that we will see an uptick in people being employed in trades, as these are traditionally male roles, well paying* and AI proof.

    With an influx of workers going after skilled labour, the companies may initially cut wages - why pay you a good wage when someone hungrier will take a shittier one - but most trades have unions and if the unions get bigger as a result of the influx of skilled people looking for work, then the wages will come back up through union action.

    It’s kind of an economics lesson in a way, and I’m vastly oversimplify the nuances that are interlinked in this cycle I’m describing, but that’s what I expect will likely happen over the next decade or two.

    All of this comes at a good time, as trades were big in the 80s, and all those tradesmen are retiring. There was (in the 2010s) a big shortage of people wanting to do tradeswork and now the thing is kind of coming full circle


    *= They are not so well paying right now.

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      I am somewhat doubtful of this. It’s not like trades went away… but they are unattractive for other reasons. Here is Europe at least, they are full of old right-wing guys that demand servitude and cultural assimilation from young people joining apprenticeships, and few make it to the grueling end after some years, and even fewer want to continue with the same shop afterwards.

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    17 hours ago

    Given the current conditions and outlook in the US for young men, I’m not surprised that pessimism and depression are high. This correlates with suicide too.

    • That said, I’m going on spite and curiosity.
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      21 hours ago

      As a Gen-Z young man in the US with both a B.S. and graduate/professional degree who is unemployed — I can corroborate. I usually ponder suicide and the point of it all at least once a week while applying to jobs and being a leach off my parents for financial support. Love em for that though. If I didn’t have their emotional and financial support, I’d probably just go ahead and take that long nap lol.

      • Superorbit@lemmy.ca
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        18 hours ago

        I’d think twice about taking a “long nap”. You’re gonna have to take it eventually, so there’s no real need to hurry it. In the meantime you might find something you really like that you would have otherwise missed if you had taken the nap early.

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          15 hours ago

          Can’t poke holes in your logic there. It just feels like every day is mediocre and the world isn’t exactly conducive to positive change, whether on a large scale or smaller, personal scale.

          Feels like proper in-person socialization has been obliterated in favor of Discord, TikTok, Insta, Reddit and of course, work, sleep, family. The internet used to be fun and interesting imo, when life sucked, it was an escape. Now it’s just anger, engagement bait, ads, bots, scams, etc., all centralized to a few shitty platforms.

          I won’t be takin’ the long nap anytime soon unless something catastrophic happens lol, but damn it’d be nice to literally hibernate through this shit the world seems to be going through because I certainly seem entirely powerless to change it or myself for the better.

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            9 hours ago

            I can’t really poke holes in your logic either lol. All I can say is that you might benefit from carving out your own corner of the world. Maybe pick up a hobby and/or find a niche corner of the internet. Either way gl with the job hunt and all that.