Ukrainian intelligence released an intercepted call from Donetsk in which a Russian commander threatened to shoot any soldier who tried to retreat, shouting, “Victory or death.”

Ukrainian intelligence released an intercepted call from Donetsk in which a Russian commander threatened to shoot any soldier who tried to retreat, shouting, “Victory or death.”

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.kyivpost.com/post/60938

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      • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        5 days ago

        Ahem, awkctually shooting deserters is a gewd thing, because it teaches the liberal media to stay in line, therefore helping communism strive by giving the totally not authoritarian AI implants in Putin dopamine and thats a good thing.

        Errr… /s

        Did I do a stupid right? I don’t even know.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.socialEnglish
      11·
      4 days ago

      Something tells me you don’t complain about the Soviet conscript armies for the Revolution and Great Patriotic War.

      I don’t like conscription as a concept but is not the one nearly universally justifiable exception defense of a society against imperialist fascists funding and allied to Nazism worldwide?

        • favoredponcho@lemmy.zipEnglish
          75·
          5 days ago

          Enemy at the Gates (Stalingrad in France and L’Ennemi aux portes in Canada) is a 2001 war film directed, co-written, and produced by Jean-Jacques Annaud, based on William Craig’s 1973 nonfiction book Enemy at the Gates: The Battle for Stalingrad, which describes the events surrounding the Battle of Stalingrad in the winter of 1942–1943.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enemy_at_the_Gates

          Tankie go home.

              • vanDerVaartBlackenedRanch [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
                44·
                5 days ago

                The 2001 film Enemy at the Gates shows Soviet Red Army commissars and barrier troops using a PM M1910 alongside their own small arms to gun down the few retreating survivors of a failed charge on a German position during the Battle of Stalingrad. The film misrepresents the role of blocking detachments in the Red Army. Although there was Order No. 227 (Russian: Директива Ставки ВГК №227) that became the rallying cry of “Not a step back!” (Russian: Ни шагу назад!, romanized: Ni shagu nazad!),[36] machine gunners were not placed behind regular troops with orders to kill anyone who retreated, and they were used only for penal troops. As per Order No. 227, each detachment would have between three and five barrier squads per 200 personnel.[37][38]

                If you refuse to read your own sources, I really don’t know why you bother engaging.

    • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.worldEnglish
      11·
      5 days ago

      Many people think that propaganda means it’s a lie. Often it is, but propaganda can be true while still being propaganda. Which is this case.

      So, yeah, obviously it’s a propaganda. Doesn’t make Russian inhuman shooting of their own troops any better.

      How delusional do you have to be to ignore that they’ve done so throughout history and even did so in this exact war? This is merely someone giving the order, it’s not like we didn’t know they did it.