last.fm is pretty good. download music locally, scrobble it to last.fm, look at recommendations ans/or similar artists. also recommendations from fans tend to work well (comment sections, subreddits, forums, etc)
Music is not meant to be a solitary hobby. Share what you like, they’ll share what they like.
Like a piece of music? Look up that producer, or record label if it’s small. Look up the session musicians. Don’t just look up the artist.
Generally it’s not just the artist that makes the music top tier. There are other great professionals involved in the background and good people hire other good people to work in the background.
This is easy. Once you start doing this you end up with a queue of albums you want to get round to listening to. It’s easy enough to find too much music yourself without an algorithm. You start finding the artist radio a waste of your time.
The rabbit holes I’ve been down following a producer, guitarist, or bassist, etc. are usually very rewarding and often you pop up in another place you knew already after finding out about some lesser known great music on the way.
Honest question: I discover at maximum 1 new song that I like per week. I listen to metal and hard electronic music. As soon as the song has 20 seconds of intro I skip it. Spotify only suggests songs with long intros or songs that are just growling, which I don’t like too much, or that electronic over saturated sound where you only have bass and nothing else.
Which one is ethical and not shit? I left Google play music because it turned into a worse version of itself with a half baked rebrand. Didn’t care for tidal much.
The most ethical music streaming service is probably Qobuz, followed by Tidal. If those are too niche for you, the next best in artist payout would be Apple, then Deezer and YouTube Music. And the only one worse than Spotify is Amazon.
What I meant is more like a competitive price, or at least a regional price. Residing in Turkey rn and the only affordable things are the ones with regional prices
I’ve made several efforts to try out Deezer, tidal and Qobuz. Their library just comes up short within 2-3 searches for some of the more niche stuff I want to listen to. Depending on what you listen to they can be great, I’m sure, I’d much prefer using Qobuz but for completeness… I assume the only ones that come close are Amazon and Apple and at that point, why even switch?
Apple is actually a much better choice than Spotify. My numbers are a few years old but iirc, Apple pays artists almost twice as much as Spotify. Only Amazon has a worse artist payout than Spotify.
Of course, Tidal and Qobuz are still much better than Apple but they also have the limitations you’ve mentioned.
Oh and Apple and the others don’t fill out playlists with AI generated music so they themselves can get the payout for the plays. You know, like Spotify does.
Realistically, even YouTube Music is more ethical than Spotify these days and that’s saying something.
People in here looking for less evil alternatives to Spotify and you suggest Clear Channel, the company that killed local radio broadcasting and enshittified the airwaves long ago?
Spotify used to do that very well, but the last years it enshittified. Now it’s very difficult to find new artists or new music, heck even finding a playlist that isn’t auto generated by Spotify has become a challenge. Everything is now pushed by Spotify and they select which artists you listen to, the artists that make Spotify more money.
Honest question, how else do I easily discover music that matches my taste if I don’t use a streaming service?
last.fm is pretty good. download music locally, scrobble it to last.fm, look at recommendations ans/or similar artists. also recommendations from fans tend to work well (comment sections, subreddits, forums, etc)
Music is not meant to be a solitary hobby. Share what you like, they’ll share what they like.
Generally it’s not just the artist that makes the music top tier. There are other great professionals involved in the background and good people hire other good people to work in the background.
This is easy. Once you start doing this you end up with a queue of albums you want to get round to listening to. It’s easy enough to find too much music yourself without an algorithm. You start finding the artist radio a waste of your time.
The rabbit holes I’ve been down following a producer, guitarist, or bassist, etc. are usually very rewarding and often you pop up in another place you knew already after finding out about some lesser known great music on the way.
Honest question: I discover at maximum 1 new song that I like per week. I listen to metal and hard electronic music. As soon as the song has 20 seconds of intro I skip it. Spotify only suggests songs with long intros or songs that are just growling, which I don’t like too much, or that electronic over saturated sound where you only have bass and nothing else.
How can I discover new songs that I like there?
Personally I’ve been using SoundCloud for the past 10 years at least and it’s been great.
Spotify isn’t the only streaming service, it’s just one of the worst, like ethically.
and to answer your question there are sites like Rate Your Music that let you find albums similar to albums you like.
Which one is ethical and not shit? I left Google play music because it turned into a worse version of itself with a half baked rebrand. Didn’t care for tidal much.
The most ethical music streaming service is probably Qobuz, followed by Tidal. If those are too niche for you, the next best in artist payout would be Apple, then Deezer and YouTube Music. And the only one worse than Spotify is Amazon.
Spotify is like 3usd in my home country. Any app that does price matching?
Price matching?
What I meant is more like a competitive price, or at least a regional price. Residing in Turkey rn and the only affordable things are the ones with regional prices
I’ve made several efforts to try out Deezer, tidal and Qobuz. Their library just comes up short within 2-3 searches for some of the more niche stuff I want to listen to. Depending on what you listen to they can be great, I’m sure, I’d much prefer using Qobuz but for completeness… I assume the only ones that come close are Amazon and Apple and at that point, why even switch?
Apple is actually a much better choice than Spotify. My numbers are a few years old but iirc, Apple pays artists almost twice as much as Spotify. Only Amazon has a worse artist payout than Spotify. Of course, Tidal and Qobuz are still much better than Apple but they also have the limitations you’ve mentioned. Oh and Apple and the others don’t fill out playlists with AI generated music so they themselves can get the payout for the plays. You know, like Spotify does. Realistically, even YouTube Music is more ethical than Spotify these days and that’s saying something.
Potentially I Heart Radio to listen to various artists, then internet search to purchase their albums.
Might have to bring back mix tapes and record favourite songs over digital radio!
People in here looking for less evil alternatives to Spotify and you suggest Clear Channel, the company that killed local radio broadcasting and enshittified the airwaves long ago?
I’ve been using listenbrainz for a bit, and it’s pretty good.
Spotify used to do that very well, but the last years it enshittified. Now it’s very difficult to find new artists or new music, heck even finding a playlist that isn’t auto generated by Spotify has become a challenge. Everything is now pushed by Spotify and they select which artists you listen to, the artists that make Spotify more money.
Sorry, nothing against you personally I guess, but I’m getting a little tired of this question.
You’re on social media right now, there are music communities.
Most posts do NOT link Spotify.
Personally I can add a few more sources/habits, but that would seem like the first and most obvious answer.
Music communities/discussion is not the same as spotify music discovery.
Communities can recommend you music that is the same genre as the music you like.
Algorithms can recommend music that you will like as much as your input taste.
Well they specifically asked “if I don’t use a streaming service”.
They can, but you can also try something else.
To some degree, but there are other ways (better imho) of broadening your horizon.
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I like mixcloud, my partner likes bandcamp. Both have pros and cons.