• MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    Chump doesn’t care. He is going to disrupt anything he can and continue blaming the ‘left’ for it.

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    Oh, the idiots who wouldn’t even endorse Mamdani? Yeah, good job shitheads, go against the will of your own voters to try to stay on better terms with the worst people, who won’t even work with you.

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    That’s hilarious. They weren’t even demanding anything substantial, like the abolition of ICE or the removal of National Guard troops for cities. They staked their claim on budgetary issues related to healthcare… and Trump couldn’t even stomach that.

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      Because he’s a brainless goblin that thinks that in any situation there has to be a winner and a loser, and he has to be the winner or he would be the loser. So if he doesn’t think he can win a situation he will refuse to engage in it, because he has the emotional maturity of a 4-year-old

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      Yep, and that’s why Trump declared (specifically) antifa as a terrorist organization. Anyone that he wants to say is antifa, is now antifa.

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        They could never really be a terrorist organisation, they spend most of their time arguing with each other.

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          First of all infiltrating these groups and causing infighting is the oldest trick in the book. So if this isn’t your full-time job, then familiarize yourself and stop giving free labor to fascists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur

          Second of all, who? Who are you talking about? Antifa is not an organization, not a group, there are no members. It’s like labeling Swifties as a terrorist organization, do you understand? It is not an organization, it is a blanket term for a subset of people who like Taylor Swift. Antifa is just a blanket term for anyone who opposes fascism. So yeah, they could never really be a terrorist organization, because first they’d have to become an organization.

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    Isn’t he aiming for government shutdown since the beginning? After all he wants to be Orange Shitler.

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    I’m still waiting to see who these ‘radical left democrats’ are… cuz I’m more left and radical than ANYONE that’s elected currently. I don’t understand how that doesn’t just get old…

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      You’re not radical or left enough to have gone all the way around to being extremely right… it’s like a circle…

      Edit: people obviously didn’t get the joke 🤷‍♂️

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        Horseshoe theory is bullshit.

        The original spectrum is based on seating arrangements of the French ruling body after the revolution. Maybe that’s not a good model to begin with.

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        No it’s not. The political spectrum is two-dimensional not one dimensional. You’ve got radical left and radical right on one axis and then you’ve got authorian and libertarian on the other axis. Their can be, and has been, authoritarian left wing leaders. Trump is right and up. They’ve gone left and up, they haven’t gone in a circle.

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    Funny to think of the right viewing the, globally speaking, center-right as “radical left”. The level of hyperbole and hypocrisy from the right is stupefying.

    It’s one thing I am trying to impart on my kids. If someone speaks fluently in hyperbole and absolutes, or getting louder the more they are challenged (or both), 100% they are full of shit and trying to sell you something.

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      Funny to think of the right viewing the, globally speaking, center-right as “radical left”. The level of hyperbole and hypocrisy from the right is stupefying.

      This is a major part of the problem we’re in. And I’m sorry but I’m going to “both sides” a bit because there is plenty of blame to toss around.

      Democrats and Republicans have both been upping the rhetoric for decades, describing their political opponents in harsher and scarier terms. Most politicians did so understanding that it was all basically just “campaign talk” and not really true. But it gets votes so you do it. You can see this when you see retired politicians giving interviews where their language is much softer and reasonable than when they were in office.

      Republicans turned it up to 11 quicker than Democrats though - and Donald Trump and his followers actually believed the rhetoric rather than understanding that it was just campaign BS.

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          A few Democrats have properly called out Republicans for what they are: fascists and Nazis. This very much hurts the feelings of the fascists. Can’t you see how mean it all is?

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          When did Democrats treat Republicans harshly? The problem is that they don’t, they’re spineless bastards who would rather take one step towards fascism than two steps towards progress

          I get so 'fing sick of this “we play too nice it’s why we lose” BS. And yes - BOTH SIDES do that.

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              You notice how things went from “Oh we just call them weird” to full-on “THEY’RE FASCISTS” in like 0 seconds?

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                They are literally definitionally fascist though? What the fuck do you expect?

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                For the record, the “weird” meme was years after their rhetoric was deemed objectively fascist by every historical expert on the subject. It wasn’t hyperbole, only people saying, “it can’t happen here, that’s a slippery slope argument”.

                And now here we are: SCOTUS-approved racial profiling, concentration camps, disappearing, FCC openly stifling free speech, open attack on sec 230, a budget to benefit oligarchs, pay2win tariffs, rule-by-executive-order. Trump now considers it an act of terrorism to say you are anti-fascism.

                To still bend over backwards to say “both sides” at this point is absolutely wild to me.

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                It was probably because Trump was talking and is now acting, like a fascist.

                Hell, he’s got a card carrying, open neonazi in his cabinet, that he picked. Twice.

                Ie, Gorka.

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              Bush II was called a fascist FFS. Back when we still had a court that didn’t believe the president was a king actually and congress would at least occasionally push back on the executive.

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                Bush 2 was a fascist. Stealing the 2000 election, and constructing this whole extrajudicial framework with ICE and Guantanamo and whatnot, very directly laid the groundwork for what’s happening right now. Trump is only able to direct a law enforcement agency to wander the land executing his will without having to convince anyone whose allegiance is to the law instead of their orders, because George Bush set it up for him in the first place. Right-wing media at the time getting in on defining a fantastical narrative under which they could direct the anger of their followers at “enemies,” Bush saying that atheists shouldn’t be considered citizens… it was all there. It was just new, so it was just getting started, it couldn’t have much impact and the country resisted a lot of it.

                Trump is more fascist than Bush was. But the people who were seeing the first little seeds of something that could grow into something horrifying, all the way back then, were 100% right.

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                  People were saying to anyone who would listen that Guantanamo was going to lead exactly where we are today. The sane washing as we call it now goes back so far.

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                  Let’s not forget who came after W. Those who could have undone the damage but only cemented it further and built it up.

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                You hear harsh words and assume they must be hyperbole without trying to determine the truth. The truth is there have been fascist elements in US government for its entire history which have waxed and waned over time; it was waxing under Bush II and now it’s a full moon. When people warned about fascism you say they were being unreasonable, even though you seem to acknowledge that Trump really is fascist, vindicating their warnings.

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                Just because Dubya wasn’t given the freedom to exact fascism, doesn’t mean The Decider didn’t want it.

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                I’m not gonna go into detail because PhilipTheBucket already did that, but: Yeah, the court only stole the election for him.

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        … if one side moves farther to the right, and the other side stays where they are, the side calling out the mover isn’t “both sides”.

        (Not that Democrats haven’t also moved farther right)

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          They literally did a 180 on immigrants when Joe Biden was president what are you talking about lol

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          I mean… I say right in the post that Republicans are worse. But partisans are simply incapable of any introspection.

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            The reason you are being downvoted is because you are doing a “both sides” over two right wing political parties in a left wing space that overwhelmingly recognizes that neither party represents us or our interests. Whether you mean to or not you are lumping everyone left of center in with the right-wing Democrats simply because they are the least-right party that currently exists, and that is not only reductive, but harmfully inaccurate.

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    …and what if the Democrats try to shut it down, but Trump and Scotus figure out a way to not have a shut down without democrat involvement.

    …there, that would be Trump in power permanently.

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      Trump and Scotus figure out a way to not have a shut down without democrat involvement.

      When all rules are optional, that part isn’t really an “if”