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    According to the newspaper, she believes that the organization’s communication focuses too much on internal matters. She is still reported to continue the sailing trip to Gaza.

    “We all have a role: Mine will not be in the governing committee, but as an organizer and participant”, says Thunberg according to Il Manifesto.

    According to the organization, the intention of the trip is to “break the illegal siege” of the Gaza Strip by opening a humanitarian corridor by sea.

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      For someone who creates so much drama all over the world simply by her presence, she has a surprising lack of tolerance for exactly that type of drama.

      That said, it’s good to know when to step away because the organization you’re backing is too tied up with their own internal bullshit. I wish American Democrats understood this concept.

      Edit: since so many of you are hallucinating that I am blaming anyone for anything…

      Gothenburg is awesome and one of the Crystal heroes. I blame him for nothing. Everyone who keeps hallucinating that I blamed her for anything… It’s a hallucination. And you’re hallucinating for reasons I don’t care to understand. But you’re hallucinating, and I never said anything other than that I have the greatest respect for her in which she does.

      If you hallucinated that I said anything else, your hallucinating. Good luck with your psychotic. But you’re hallucinating. I never said that.

      Edit : so mad i calles you for lying about what i said. Cry cry cry

      Here is a resource where you can get to help you desperately need: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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        For someone who creates so much drama all over the world simply by her presence, she has a surprising lack of tolerance for exactly that type of drama.

        Almost as if her goal is actual forward progress, instead of drama and wankery. Be like Greta.

        American Democrats

        No idea what the fuck this part is about

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            You hallucinated your hatred of women and then projected around me. I love Greta Thunberg and I think it’s amazing that she has any power.

            But you hate women and you hate women power so you hallucinated that I said something you agreed with, and then you projected it on me.

            Here’s where you can get some psychiatric help: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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              I don’t think that’s how that works. I think you are projecting. Now, accuse me of projecting and I’ll accuse you again of projecting and then you can accuse me of projecting and I can accuse you again of projecting, and we can make an entire day out of this.

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          Almost as if her goal is actual forward progress, instead of drama and wankery.

          You can get a hell of a lot done when you don’t care who gets the credit.

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          Again, I never said anything here other than the quote which you have hallucinated to mean something completely different than what I intended.

          Best of luck with your delusional hallucinations. It will take a team of doctors and tons of medication today, but I have faith that you can once again rejoin humanity and being normal.

          Until then, everything you say and do as a hallucination. You’re a liar and hallucinating delusions.

          You are wrong. That is not what I meant. And unless you were telepathic, you can’t tell me what I meant. I know what I meant. And you are wrong.

          Stop posting your delusional hallucinations

          https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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            Not healthy to get so invested in what others may or may not think of you or the things you do or say.

            Just say your piece, then continue living your best life. All this, I don’t even know what to call it, is just bound to make you more and more aggravated.

            This is just a friendly note from someone also confused by your breakdown. Just let this all be, let others think of you as they will, focus on your actual life instead of internet strangers.

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          You’re hallucinating. You coded my words and then invented a completely different meaning to what I said. You’re hallucinating.

          Best of luck with your delusions. But nothing you feel think or say represents reality.

          You’re hallucinating

          Edit: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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            The fact that every one of these messages ends with “mentalhealth/i-need-help-now” is extra entertaining to me

            My gentleperson, relax. You can always clarify what you meant about American Democrats, if you want, and we can talk. If you get unhinged every time someone on the internet says something that you take in an unkind way you’re going to spend a lot of time being unhinged.

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          American Democrats

          No idea what the fuck this part is about

          It’s about astroturfers taking every opportunity to smear Democrats, even if it doesn’t make any sense at all.

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            I mean I wasn’t going to say it before at least understanding what they were even trying to say, but yes lol

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              I understood immediately: “Democrats bad.” That’s what they were trying to say.

              When it’s fucking fascists who are actively and obviously creating all of the problems, and someone throws shade on literally anyone else about it, that person is a fucking fascist.

              Make no mistake: I’m not saying the DNC or any specific Democrat is “perfect” by any stretch. I am saying that demanding perfection from anyone who’s taking even the slightest stand against fascism is counterproductive, considering the behemoth that must be taken down. They want us to fight with each other, so that we’re less effective at fighting them.

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                Taking a stance against fascism, LMAO. The Dems literally started funding the current stage of the genocide of the Palestinians. You libs are fucking spineless.

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                Be sure to update us whenever the DNC takes even the slightest stand against fascism.

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                When it’s fucking fascists who are actively and obviously creating all of the problems, and someone throws shade on literally anyone else about it, that person is a fucking fascist.

                That is literally not what that word means.

                I am saying that demanding perfection from anyone who’s taking even the slightest stand against fascism is counterproductive,

                Nobody is demanding perfection from the DNC, and pretending that is what’s going on completely invalidates your point. Base your rhetoric in reality if you want to have a good faith anything.

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            You could ask what it’s about, or you could hallucinate your own delusional bullshit to blame me for the horrible things in your brain

            Or you could just ask what I meant. But I think you preferred a hallucinate, horrible delusions and then blame me for that.

            All right, you could just ask me what I meant. Do you actually care?

            Get help: https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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                Obvious hallucination is obvious

                I’m a troll because I called you out for being a liar you are? Cry, cry, cry, cry, boo-hoo.

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        Edit : so mad i calles you for lying about what i said. Cry cry cry

        It’s a bold rhetorical strategy Cotton lol, let’s see if it turns the readers around to their point of view

        Honestly I couldn’t even really make sense of what you were trying to say, I don’t think I hallucinated anything aside from my own confusion. I do think there is a powerful analogy at work here though. “Gothenberg” as you are calling her (I think? him? what? anyway), when she saw that the organization that was “officially in charge” of forward progress wasn’t really upholding the values, just left them to whatever their bullshit was, and continued fighting directly for change (as part of that organization), because that’s what’s important. Some other people in contrast when they see that the DNC is a bunch of horse manure dressed up in expensive suits, start SCREAMING about how Democrats are the worst and forward progress has to start with attacking them at every turn.

        First strategy makes sense to me. Second one not so much. Like I say, be like Greta.

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        Hard to really blame her for the drama when the media simply fixates on her for being her.

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          I never said any of this, it is 100% a delusional hallucination.

          Does delusional psychosis run in your family? Or do you often invent things to argue against that no one ever is that?

          Because I never said anything close to what you’re calling me saying, and it is either a lie or a delusional hallucination. I honestly can’t think which is worse.

          https://www3.erie.gov/mentalhealth/i-need-help-now

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            Anyone else get the impression this person actually suffers from hallucinations? I’ve never seen someone so fixated on such a bizzare, specific insult. It feels personal.

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        For the record I found your message very clear and don’t know what the fuck the other lemmings are on about.

        We’ve reached such a level of teenage idiocy on this fucking website that you can say “kudos to Greta for putting impact over drama” and they’ll interpret it as the exact opposite. There’s a nutcase in here calling you a fascist for… Talking about democrats I guess? And getting pats on the back “oh yes very wise indeed”. Just children cosplaying as concerned citizens.

        Your mental health bit is super cringe but I can see where the frustration comes from.

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    It’s a classic play by security agencies and opposition groups … tactics originally developed by the US after WWII. There’s even a manual you can find online that shows all this.

    Insert and include members, spies, bad actors into an organization. The goal of these characters is to just delay and disrupt … bog down the machine to slow everything down or even shut it down.

    Cause endless bureaucracy, complications and difficulties for everything … get people to meet on everything no matter how small, debate everything on every detail, reassess constantly and just make everything as complicated as possible.

    It wears actual supporters down over time, to the point of pushing people away and even inviting in more bad actors to make things even worse.

    Simple Sabotage Field Manual

    Here’s the manual … I’m sure after 60 years, they’ve updated it and made it more sophisticated and effective.

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      Cause endless bureaucracy, complications and difficulties for everything … get people to meet on everything no matter how small, debate everything on every detail, reassess constantly and just make everything as complicated as possible.

      I see you have been to most of my meetings