As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that do the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)
Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.
Blame those greedy corporations, not the technology.
A bunch of the earlier ones had their batteries replaced under warranty and are effectively only a couple years old. They’re also dirt cheap and undervalued at the moment.
I would argue that even if you did get a used one with new batteries, you’d still face degradation down the line and additional problems that would or could be mitigated in older ice cars which are much more likely to have replacement parts available (even if those replacement parts don’t come from the same type or brand of vehicle). For instance. I know for a fact that there’s a trend of using Honda engines in older first Gen mini coopers. Buying a rebuilt engine has the potential to be pretty cheap.
Not only was the battery replaced, the 8 year warranty on it was reset. Also, the idea that EV batteries die after a couple of years like in phones was unfounded. The batteries in EVs are actually properly temperature regulated unlike the ones in mobile phones. The primary degradation in an EV battery happens when the battery is new and stays basically flat for the rest of its life.
EVs have been on the road long enough for studies to determine that most batteries will last at least as long as most people will own the car.
It ain’t the junk in the garage, it’s the $80k and the spyware
Yup. Find me a car that respects my privacy and won’t advertise to me and I’m in.
Edit to add: and no fuucking subscriptions to enable things the car can already do but disabled in software.
As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that do the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)
Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.
Blame those greedy corporations, not the technology.
exactly, data collection is an issue with new cars in general. It’s not a reason to buy a new ICE car instead of a new EV.
It is a reason to not buy a new car which means people who aren’t buying new cars won’t be buying EV’s.
You could always pick up a 9-year-old Bolt
Not worth the cost of admission. The amount of money it costs to refurb that battery pack is still too high.
A bunch of the earlier ones had their batteries replaced under warranty and are effectively only a couple years old. They’re also dirt cheap and undervalued at the moment.
I would argue that even if you did get a used one with new batteries, you’d still face degradation down the line and additional problems that would or could be mitigated in older ice cars which are much more likely to have replacement parts available (even if those replacement parts don’t come from the same type or brand of vehicle). For instance. I know for a fact that there’s a trend of using Honda engines in older first Gen mini coopers. Buying a rebuilt engine has the potential to be pretty cheap.
I have one of those Bolts.
Not only was the battery replaced, the 8 year warranty on it was reset. Also, the idea that EV batteries die after a couple of years like in phones was unfounded. The batteries in EVs are actually properly temperature regulated unlike the ones in mobile phones. The primary degradation in an EV battery happens when the battery is new and stays basically flat for the rest of its life.
EVs have been on the road long enough for studies to determine that most batteries will last at least as long as most people will own the car.