Experts say US "violated fundamental principles of international law" by attacking boat from Venezuela that was already heading back

Experts say US “violated fundamental principles of international law” by attacking boat from Venezuela that was already heading back

Archived version: https://archive.is/newest/https://www.thecanary.co/global/world-news/2025/09/12/tensions-escalate-as-venezuela-states-11-killed-in-us-strike-were-not-drug-traffickers/

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  • expatriado@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    30 days ago

    the amount of incompetence and shamelessness by the current US admin in this event is so damn high

  • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    5·
    30 days ago

    Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell dismissed the interior minister’s statement as the words of an “illegitimate narco-terrorist regime”. Parnell stated:

    Oof. Owwie. Ouch.

  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    29 days ago

    At what point do our officers refuse illegal orders? I can’t imagine there’s any legal wiggle-room for a blasting civilians out of the water. It’ll never happen, but this seems grounds for a court martial. Well written and interesting article here:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjzw3gplv7o

    Remember the plots of Clear and Present Danger and Sicario, where the US military is hunting narcos and it’s a black bag operation because the scandal would be earth shattering? LOL, in the movies they even had to hide the funding and these fascists are gloating about it in the open.

    • BrikoX@lemmy.zipOPMEnglish
      4·
      29 days ago

      Under US law, military personnel basically have no way to refuse an order since they themselves can’t determine an order to be illegal. Only military court can do that and that can take from months to years while for all that time they will suffer real consequnces for refusing to comply with an order from their superior. Also if military court determines that order was lawful they are fucked. Also since US learned from Germany’s aftermath, compyling with illegal order is an affirmative defense for them if they are accused of war crimes or other evil deeds.

      There is a good video on this from a real judge advocate general (JAG): https://youtu.be/TwPLqGkYnBA

    • stink@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
      2·
      29 days ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Thompson_Jr.

      Thompson was vilified by many Americans for his testimony against United States Army personnel. He recounted in a CBS “60 Minutes” television program in 2004, “I’d received death threats over the phone…Dead animals on your porch, mutilated animals on your porch some mornings when you get up.”

      This guy intervened during the murders and rapes of innocent women and children and he was vilified for it. They wanted him hanged for treason. America is evil and a majority of soldiers will just follow orders.