• ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com
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    11 hours ago

    I know Walz/Harris was impossible given the Biden lead-up and Harris running the show after, but if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

    Trump is a dark triad personality wearing a working-man’s death mask, and his base sees it and marvels at how “real” he is. But Walz knows how to actually be real, actually communicate like a regular guy, and is just good in the way middle America likes to imagine itself.

    His Harris campaign bounce following “weird” would likely have held the swing state firewall, until Harris decided she wanted to bring in Liz Cheney and put a muzzle on Walz to not offend (or inspire) anyone. Given our poor Democrat name recognition options (Harris, Newsom…Jefferies?), maybe Walz is our best hope, if we somehow make it to a fair election in 2028.

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      9 hours ago

      if Walz was the ticket leader I think Trump would have lost.

      Setting aside the fact that he’s got more charisma than a tree stump, he’s also a middle aged white guy in a country that reflexively defers to that kind of person.

      I don’t think Walz solves for Trump’s biggest advantage - Silicon Valley broke for him and turned social media fully against the Democratic Party. He would have done less bad than Harris, particularly in the Midwest. But winning? Idk, still feels like a coin toss to me. He’s not flipping Arizona or Georgia like Biden managed.

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      Exactly, what made the democratic party think a biracial woman was a good candidate against Trump of all people, like clearly the country is not ready for that, all they needed was another old white guy and they just handed Trump the election instead

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      11 hours ago

      I voted for Harris because of Walz. If she had picked another wallpaper running mate like Tim Kaine it would have been a lot harder.

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            10 hours ago

            Yeah, she’s an authoritarian cunt.

            Still, wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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              9 hours ago

              wasn’t hard to care against Mango Mussolini.

              Liberals keep saying this, because they weren’t out in the trenches stumping for Harris while getting actively spit on.

              Like, this isn’t just a matter of voting. It’s a matter of staffing campaign offices and galvanizing low info voters in Midwestern swing states.

              Who is going to canvas the neighborhoods once you’ve told all those Penn State freshman with Bernie Sanders bumper stickers and watermelon flags to fuck off? Who is going to phone bank? Who is going to knock doors and host rallies?

              Harris shed fifteen million votes in no small part because she told her activist party base she didn’t need them to win.

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                9 hours ago

                “thank god I can vote against the Nazi now, him being a Nazi wasn’t enough”

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                  9 hours ago

                  No shit. I’d have crawled across glass to vote for Harris. Fuck Trump and stop blaming Biden for people supporting that nazi ass bitch.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Not if the alternate was solely a Nazi in sheeps clothing.

                  Same problem as Clinton, really. If either Clinton or Harris had been elected, we never would have known where the bottom was, they’re better at hiding it than Trump.

                  Marginally better than Trump is a low fucking bar, but no other viable alternatives so…

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                    2 hours ago

                    What?! Have I hit my head and gone into an alternate dimension?

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          11 hours ago

          Don’t worry, they’ll do some mental gymnastics to assure you that Harris was somehow just as bad.

          Usually walking back to Palestine. Like, we get, it but the current regime was understood to be worse for everyone, including Palestine.